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jimbino

And not just countries! I am a non-breeder and it is clearly not in my interest to pay taxes to clean up air polluted by the children of breeders for the benefit of the grandchildren of breeders! Let the breeders clean up their own messes.

Roach

This callous dismissal of children, future generations and, implicitly, your own parents is kind of striking. It is so strident, it seems like a joke. Do you believe the human race should continue or not? and if it should, how does your "anti-breeder" ideology square with that?

jimbino

I think I expressed what I think about future generations by my decision to be a non-breeder. I suppose you think non-golfers should be forced to contribute to the maintenance of the turf or rationalists to the maintenance of cemeteries?

Breeders of the world, clean up your own messes!

Erasmussimo

I have read the cited paper, and I have a few comments. The paper is made complex by the fact that it addresses multiple arguments in favor of multiple policies. It does a good job of dismissing many of those arguments and many of those policies. However, it should be noted that nothing in this paper argues against a worldwide carbon tax. It refers several times to such a tax, but never directly rejects it, and the justifying arguments that it refutes are not necessary to justifying a worldwide carbon tax. I think that the authors would have done the readers a service by explicitly pointing out this distinction.

Fein

The link to the full paper doesn't seem to work. Is the problem on my end, or is the link incorrect?

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Climatic Change is Not a Problem of the Future

The diagnosis of the future of the planet cannot be gloomier. To the numerous elements that damage the environment, we must now add others, like the direct consequences of turning food into fuel, established as the economic policy guideline of the United States, designed and defended at all costs by the US president.

The issue has been presented on many occasions as a warning of the potential danger that, if continued, will affect the indispensable conditions for the life on the planet. Evidently at the service of the large transnationals, which produce 25 percent of the contaminating gas emissions, the White House has justified its position and has systematically refused to sign the Kyoto Protocol.

The inhabitants of the planet are required to act urgently. Maybe it's not too late.

Carlos Menéndez
http://www.creditomagazine.es

Vivian

Jimbino
You then, as one of the "children of breeders" (your words), admit that you are polluting the air and should pay taxes to help clean up the environment. It is difficult for me to think of any of us as pollution or polluters- even though we are organic life forms. I like to think we have intangible assets to counter that idea. Full disclosure- I'm a child and a parent.


When the world needs to act, could not corrective, redistributive, cosumptive and individual nations' own luck-of-geography measures all mesh together for initial attempts at a solution?
A formula with factors representing an individual country's percent of responsibility for existing greenhouse gas up to a certain date in time, then after that set date, a 'pollution' tax for all fuels sold or consumed by any/all nations- no matter where the fuel originated could help. And getting further out there- possibly adding into that model a credit for the percent of a nation's land mass lost (possibly)to rising sea levels, and lattitude handicaps due to heating or cooling needs. I think its going to be either very complex or nothing will be done for a long time. I really don't like the idea of all 192 or (193-Vatican) nations voting with equal weight on some simple, fixed answer. If there is a formula or solution, I hope it is thoughtfully complex, and the 192-193 do things with consensus. Things will need to be readjusted year to year given new, and possibly declining development in different nations. I'm willing to live with less.

D

I am not sure I understand the implications of the arguments made, placing developing and developed countries on the same plane:

1. Is the right to development a continuing right, meaning that all countries are entitled to an equal right to development?

2.Regarding the issue of distributive justice, the Asteroid example differs from that of climate change simply because no one put the asteroids up there...it was THERE! So, the consequences that follow is less troubling in terms of responsibility v. pure altruism.

3. Lets confine the distributive justice argument to the national level--some States have high emissions levels and others low, would you extend the same "wealthy" people v. "poor" people argument, as opposed to the "nation," argument?

Also, some Northern parts of USA may benefit, but not some Southern parts. Would you then act as one nation or divide it into pieces of cities, municipalities and rich v. poor people, for clarity in terms of administration?

In other words, can the limits of distributive justice serve as a legitimate reason for shirking responsibility?

Joan A. Conway

Anyone's responsibility is like anyone's responsibility. If you are unhappy about the outcome, you take responsibility for it. If you are not, you see no responsibility until someone points it out to you, or makes you own up to it! Hardly anyone I known goes about looking for more responsibility, unless they are 'the Pitts.'

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