India's story is of intrinsic interest and importance. By following the story of Gujarat, Americans can begin to understand better than most currently do the political and religious dynamics of the world's most populous democracy, a nuclear power, and a nation that will play an increasingly large role on the world stage. India is typically not well covered by the U. S. media or by education in U. S. schools and colleges. Indian scholars who have written extremely well about their own situation, in books and articles and in a national press that is admirable for its quality and its openness, have little name-recognition in the U. S. and are rarely read. During the ascendancy of the Hindu right, when intelligent diplomatic pressure could have achieved change, U. S. foreign policy was largely indifferent to internal tensions in India, focusing only on the threat of nuclear conflict with Pakistan. American ignorance of India's history and current situation was largely to blame for such omissions. Americans typically follow events in the Middle East rather closely. If one wants to know about Israeli-Palestinian relations, for example, ample material for such an understanding is readily available from daily newspapers, television, and the internet. India is simply not as "present" to the American mind, because it is not as present in the American media. Thus India's own struggle with religious extremism is little known, and the lessons it can teach us are little appreciated.
I decided to write on this subject primarily in order to correct this imbalance. In the spring of 2003, I was invited to present a paper on a panel at the American Philosophical Association entitled "Philosophical Perspectives on the Israel-Palestine Conflict." That topic interested me, but I also knew that there were many fine philosophers who could speak on it, and that most people in the audience would be tolerably well informed about the issues. So I asked whether, instead, I might offer a comparative paper on Gujarat and Hindu-Muslim tensions in India. The offer was accepted. I wrote the paper, which was ultimately published as an article in Dissent ("Genocide in Gujarat," Dissent 61-9 (Summer 2003)). Another related article, on the rapes of women in Gujarat, was published in The Boston Review. ("Body of the Nation: Why Women Were Mutilated in Gujarat," The Boston Review 29 (2004), 33-38). The aim of both of these articles was not to say anything terribly surprising: public intellectuals, politicians, and activists in India had been analyzing the story of Gujarat often and well for some time. It was, however, to make Americans aware of the events, and of the work that had already been done on them.
People in the U. S. who read these articles often said to me things like, "That is really bad. I didn't know that was happening." It would have been possible for them to know what was happening, had they tried to read Indian newspapers online or bought books available only in India. But of course people don't do that unless they have some antecedent connection with the country. U. S. media were not making the information available to people who did not make that sort of unusual effort. So I began to think that it might be valuable for me to write a book on the subject of Gujarat and the Hindu right in India for the American public. The events of Gujarat were not inevitable. They were aided by the silence of the world. With these posts and my future book on this subject, I aim to break that silence. Intelligent action from the world community is important in sustaining recent good developments and in preventing a recurrence of genocidal violence.
My determination to write about Gujarat was increased when I encountered another kind of reaction. If I said to friends that I was writing on "religious tensions in India," a surprising number of highly intelligent people, some of them leading academics, said to me things like, "What's happening? Are the Muslims stirring up trouble again?" And of course that is precisely what the Hindu right wants people to think: Muslims are troublemakers wherever they are, and if there is trouble it is very likely to have been caused by them. The Hindu right seeks to exploit for its own purposes thoughts that come all too easily to many Americans in the aftermath of 9/11. Leading members of the Hindu right whom I have interviewed assume that as an American I am a potential sympathizer, since they assume that I already believe that Muslims are troublemakers. When people I admire repeatedly fell into this inaccurate and crude way of perceiving the Indian situation, I began to feel that it was urgent that the real story be told, so that our relations to this important nation would not be guided by stereotypes and misleading anti-Muslim propaganda.
'It was the darkest period of Indian democracy, a blot'
'http://www.rediff.com/news/2005/jun/24spec3.htm
A SENSE OF HISTORY!
Posted by: pritesh patel | October 24, 2005 at 12:26 PM
I don't mean to be an apologist for the hindu right, but hindus are hardly the only ones responsible for large-scale coordinated violence. Much like American apoligists, who give brief or no mention of the horrific crimes that ignited the modern war on terror, you fail to properly acknowledge the terrorism that sparked the gujurat riots.
Posted by: anon | October 24, 2005 at 04:31 PM
Thank you for writing these pieces on India and the dangers of Hindu extremism. It's time more people understood just how dangerous these radicals are and how many innocent people died at their hands while they were in power. It's also important to show the Congress Party that it cannot play to prejudices as well to maintain power.
Bravo.
Posted by: Siva Vaidhyanathan | October 25, 2005 at 03:43 PM
of course congress can! Congress can engage in egregious violence (see post above) and still command admiration and praise from pundits and scholars like our own Ms. Nussbaum.
Posted by: anon | October 26, 2005 at 09:55 AM
This is a remarkably myopic post for someone with such an impressive academic background. In criticizing the extreme right wing of Indian politics, Ms. Nussbaum's tone capriciously elides the distinction between those who "exploit for [their] own purposes thoughts that come all too easily to many Americans in the aftermath of 9/11" and those who believe that after years of ignoring terrorist activity in South Asia, the United States will sympathize with India (having faced and fought terror itself).
Furthermore, the rioters of Gujarat are no more representative of the entire "Hindu right" than bigoted, racist groups in the rest of the world are representative of the entire conservative movement. By repeatedly suggesting that this is so, Ms. Nussbaum commits a familiar but unfortunate error.
As a comment above suggests, the Gujarat riots were possibly 'the darkest period of Indian democracy,' yet to suggest that it placed the democratic system at risk nationwide is to grossly underestimate the resilience of Indian institutions and the strength of the democratic ideal in India. The United States has its own history of violence and bigotry, but through all those years, no one would claim that its democracy was endangered because the democratic ideal was alive and well. Perhaps Ms. Nussbaum should look at the rest of the world through the same prism which is applied to her own country.
Posted by: anon | October 26, 2005 at 02:44 PM
I have once again written a response over at my blog: http://www.indiblog.com/67/indian-democracy-collapsed-into-religious-terror/
I have sent a trackback, but wonder if it will work this time - as it did not the previous time.
Posted by: Sooraj | October 26, 2005 at 09:08 PM
I have once again written a response that can be read at:
http://www.indiblog.com/67/indian-democracy-collapsed-into-religious-terror/
I have also sent a trackback, but that didn't work the last time.
Posted by: Sooraj | October 26, 2005 at 09:10 PM
Sorry for posting the URL twice!!
Posted by: Sooraj | October 26, 2005 at 09:12 PM
I truly feel that iteration on this topic is only keeping Gujarat violence "alive". People are made to relive their horror again - being reminded of the "attrocities", "unfairness" and what not that happened to them.
There is so much unverified, ideological and political mis-information floating around that a bystander has no choice but to take sides or to opt out completely.
As a bystander, let me ask a few questions:
1) Why pick Gujarat? 70% of Muslims in West Bengal live in abject poverty and the rest barely make it to the poverty line. Same is the story in Bihar. Muslims in Gujarat are much much better off economically than anywhere in the country.
2) BBC reported that local gangs take active part in rioting and looting once it starts and make it much much worse. Why is none of this taken into consideration?
3) Isnt it true that "I will show you 10 riot incidents where more Hindus died for every one incident where it happened vise-versa"?
And before you make any judegements about me, let me tell you frankly that I am NOT (and will not be) associated with any group/party. These are genuine queries I have that were never anwered, yet!
Posted by: Jayant Bhandarkar | October 27, 2005 at 03:42 PM
The lawbreakers have become lawmakers in India and democracy has been hijacked for decades now and the people's apathy towards the sorry state of affairs guarantees that democracy in India will be in such pitiful state for years to come. And people with misinformed emotions do more damage and fail to recognize the need for a change. I pity those people who refuse to believe that Indian democracy needs a major surgery.
Posted by: Joy. D | October 28, 2005 at 01:28 PM
I pity those people who refuse to believe that Indian democracy needs a major surgery.
May be it does, but Gujarat will be the last place to start. May be you need to look more into hineous politics engulfing Tamil Nadu, West Bengal, Bihar, Karnataka, UP...
Posted by: Jayant Bhandarkar | October 31, 2005 at 09:55 AM
My what a shit load of crap, Martha Nussbaum eh ? and u are an intellectual are u ? go and learn how to do proper research first and then start analyzing your own country... the mother of all pimps..USA, a country full of bigots and hypocrites like u.
Posted by: Chandan | February 24, 2006 at 09:33 AM
I do not have sympathy for the idiot Modi and the disrepute he brought by being unable to control the genocide in Gujarat. I for one was delighted when he was refused a US visa. I am amazed that his kind continues to be around along with the likes of the Shiv Sena led by the inflammatory Bal Thackeray and the other nutcase from RSS, KS Sudershan.
Looking at Martha Nussbaum's writing I couldnt help wondering whether she has run out of things to write. The Indian Press has severely chastised Modi and so has the Supreme Court. Also her writing style seems extremely convoluted, sentences are too long and the overall organization of her presentation makes it hard to fathom the logical threads if any. She seems to be unable to communicate her point clearly and succinctly. She rambles on sometimes even moving in circles, perhaps that is the hallmark of a true "intellectual".
Martha, why dont you pick up something like the genocide and ethnic cleansing in Tibet? For some reason Tibet remains a forgotten issue ... perhaps because it has no economic value to the US.
Posted by: srini | March 03, 2006 at 08:58 PM
Most "critics" of India start out their articles by making the claim that the west has some sort of positive opinion of India. They say that India is wrongfully regarded positively by westerners and that they intend to "demolish these myths". The readers usually go "Thanks, O great Intellectual! Thanks for clearing it up!"
Those claims can't be farther from the truth. A little amount of sympathy might have been granted towards us after 9/11 in the cotext of terrorism, but even those "sympathizers" usually talk condescendingly about "Hindu-Muslim conflict" as if India is a hellhole of constant communal conflict, with both sides being guilty. Most western Acadamecians and Mediapersons NEVER miss an oppurtunity to take a jab at India. Anti-Indian vitriol is big business. And, most disturbing of all, it's mainstream. In fact, it's usually the ONLY viewpoint on India that is accepted. I would dare to say that this is just an outlet for bigotry. Nussbaum's work has a general tone of loathesomeness and condescension towards India and Indians. Nussbaum's articles simply say "you're not hating India enough, you should". They compare the so-called Hindu "right" to Nazis and Mussolini's fascists. Yet they don't raise the kind of outrage raised by Ward "little Eichmanns" Churchill or the Harvard report on the "Israel lobby".
It's bigotry and it's accepted. And, worst of all, it is given full support by Hindu "intellectuals", because they, in their unlimited insecurity regarding their religion and inferiority complex towards the west, never miss an oppurtunity to "disassociate" themselves from India, Hindus and, most of all, "Hindu fundamentalists". They pull all stops.
BTW, Nussbaum, in one of her works, erronously claims that the "Hindu right" makes Hindus feel like they are the underdogs in India. I would only like to point out how much this underdog feeling exists in both the right and left of the American political spectrum.
Awaiting a totally condescending response (what else can you expect from an "englightened" western Intellectual?) or none at all,
A concerned Hindu
Posted by: Concerned Hindu | April 25, 2006 at 03:03 PM
I question Nussbaum's competence to speak about India., I wonder if she reads any Indian language? She uses journalistic methods like interviews to draw inferences. Is she trained to do this kind of field reasearch??? This craving to be a public intellectual is pathetic.
Posted by: rasa | May 17, 2006 at 02:27 PM
How many people are in the Indian Democracy? Please post answer by tommorow- thxs.
Posted by: Tony Sapell | October 18, 2006 at 05:58 PM
Nussbaum thinks only the US has the right to call itself a victim of terror. The fact is, India is a far, far worse victim! 9-11 was bad, but it is nothing compared to what India has gone through. And remember that India is a pluralistic democracy, with no history of propping up undemcratic regimes all over the globe, unlike the US! If you take all the bombings/shootings in Mumbai, Delhi, Coimbatore, Gujarat etc, they add up to a pretty horrible picture. And what about Kashmir? How can *anyone* even dream of mentioning Islamic terrorism, without talking about Kashmir. The lives India has lost, civilian, government and military, is staggering. But of course, that's not really terrorism is it? It's local politics! And the US would handle it with far greater maturity and restraint, right? Hah!
Posted by: Varun Shekhar | December 27, 2006 at 11:46 AM
It was an uninformed piece and very weak. Like a lot of what I have read from her recently.
Here is my piece.
Lucifer versus Martha Nussbaum at Jewcy.com
http://www.jewcy.com/daily_shvitz/lucifer_vs_martha_nussbaum
I have posted more at my blog.
Posted by: LR | June 06, 2007 at 02:51 PM